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So Tony, how are the Festivus Poles selling this year?
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I wasn't going to touch this topic with a 10 ft (Festivus) pole -- but since you asked.

"Brewhaha" seems appropriate as the holiday does involve beer and laughter.

Sales are steady but slower than in previous years. We still benefit from interest from radio stations, blogs and newspapers but this is our fourth season and we're now old news.Allen Salkin's "Festivus, The Holiday for the Rest of Us" was just reprinted in paperback and he featured us in the update.

Click here to view a recent video from the author on Festivus Poles.

Thanks for asking.

Here's a photo of the world's first Festivus Pole lot in Milwaukee last December.



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How 'bout that Washington State tiff? Any pick up in exports to Washington?
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How 'bout that Washington State tiff? Any pick up in exports to Washington?


As usual with news events these days, what was a relatively minor story was fanned into a much larger story by the media. In this case, it was Fox News who jumped on the story and ran with it for two days on "Fox and Friends" and O'Reilly. The debate went very much along the lines of what has been brought up here in the past with Gretchen Carlson taking it as an insult and the others taking it as a joke. Even O'Reilly was able to separate his anger with the Governor's decision and the "Festivus people".

No big increase in sales from Washington but I did send a pole to O'Reilly and "Fox and Friends".



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I don’t take any exception to “Festivus”, but what the governor of Washington did, kowtowing to be PC, has caused quite a problem there. While Christians and Jews restricted there displays to symbols of religion, a crèche and a menorah; the atheists displayed a religious statement. Once Gregoire allowed an opinion to be stated, all opinions deserved equal access. Or that’s how it was explained. Had only religious symbols been allowed the atheist’s statement wound no have been permitted.

 

This story touches on ‘secular progressive’ vs. ‘traditional' values; aspects of free speech; ‘freedom of religion’ vs. ‘freedom from religion’; and in allowing the statement of dogma, ‘state establishment’ of religion. Can you imagine a Christian statement of Christian dogma being posted?  The ACLU would have been there before you could say ‘Merry Christmas’ (if you could say merry Christmas).

 

When I got my first ‘supervisory’ position at Merrill Lynch, my father told me in dealing with people, ‘Always remember importance comes in two sizes, your’s and their’s’. What may not seem important to you may be exceptionally important to the other person. Evidently, Carlson takes respect for religion very seriously. And in as much as the vast majority of the American people claim to be religious, the story may not be as minor as you think. Just because the MSM doesn’t cover it doesn’t mean it’s not worth covering. It just means it doesn’t fit their agenda.

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

PS: As far as Festivus catching on, who knows? It certainly had a bigger launch then Kwanzaa, the brain child of a fella who had spent a few days torturing a couple of women. Oh well, tis the season......


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Actually, I'm sure that the media backlash -- CNN and local media were big on it as well -- had a lot to do with the Governor's decision to reverse her decision and not let a Festivus Pole be displayed at the Capitol. While this story has gotten the most press this year, the same issue is being argued around the country. Green Bay, WI went through this a year ago when Wiccan's put up a display that was stolen. Then a local guy wanted to put up a Festivus Pole and in the end they decided to table it all.

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A festivus pole on lombardi drive or bart starr avenue ..... I don't think so !!!! Cheese heads of the world stand up and be counted.......


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Actually, I'm sure that the media backlash -- CNN and local media were big on it as well -- had a lot to do with the Governor's decision to reverse her decision and not let a Festivus Pole be displayed at the Capitol. While this story has gotten the most press this year, the same issue is being argued around the country. Green Bay, WI went through this a year ago when Wiccan's put up a display that was stolen. Then a local guy wanted to put up a Festivus Pole and in the end they decided to table it all.

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As I understand it the Festivus Pole would have been allowed, but the display area became too crowed and the pole was not erected by the cut off time. The governor's excuse was there was no more room for displays. She could not refuse any as she had allowed the atheist 'opinion' to be displayed, so all opinions became fair game.

Was the Wicca display in WI on public property? I only ask because Wicca, like atheism, has been recognized as a religion by the courts. Regardless it shouldn't have been stolen. 

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Nope, the Festivus Pole never made it to the Washington capitol display:

Washington State ends 'holiday' display mayhem in its capitol

Brad Shannon                                                                        
                                                               

Washington state officials placed a moratorium late Friday on permitting any more holiday displays inside the Capitol this year.

An atheists' sign placed near a Nativity scene sparked a controversy after commentators on Fox News drew attention to it. Afterward, Gov. Chris Gregoire's office was flooded with nearly 15,000 phone calls from people nationwide who opposed the sign.

The moratorium in effect denies space to several requests, including one for a sign that says "Santa Claus will take you to Hell" and a "Festivus" pole. Festivus is a mock holiday popularized by the "Seinfeld" sitcom in the 1990s.

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Green Bay was a similar progression. The mayor allowed the installation of a Nativity scene at City Hall. Requests then came in for equal time so a Wiccan wreath and a pentagram were inserted. The wreath was stolen in anger and the floodgates opened. Soon after, the request for a Festivus Pole appeared and the courts eventually entered the fray. link to story



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