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I just got this photo from a group calling themselves the "Operations Warriors". All they told me was that they are in a "forward deployed location". Great to see that they look well and are maintaining their sense of humor. Yes, that is a Festivus Pole they are gathered around.



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Yes, that is a Festivus Pole they are gathered around.

I thought it was one of those "Charlie Brown" Christmas Trees
which they hadn't decorated yet.

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Russell my boy it's Festivus for the rest of us !!!!


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That Festivus Pole looks so...so...Bare.
Is that the way it's supposed to look?

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Russell,

Check out these links:

http://www.festivuspoles.com/pages/Festivuspoles.htm

http://www.festivuspoles.com/pages/festivus/me_and_my_festivus_pole.htm

Have a great day,

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Festivus Poles remind me of artifical Christmas Trees that just came out of storage and no one put the branches on them yet.


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That Festivus Pole looks so...so...Bare.
Is that the way it's supposed to look?


Of course it is. The pole is to be unadorned as Frank Costanza found tinsel distracting.

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I'll wait until Festivus Poles are put up in place of Christmas Trees before I consider getting one myself.


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Let us pray Russell, that Festivus poles never do take the place of Christmas trees.
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Let us pray Russell, that Festivus poles never do take the place of Christmas trees.


Have no fear since it will never happen.

Interesting article in the "London Free Press" (Canada).

In the U.S., about 80 per cent of the population identifies itself as Christian — but about 96 per cent of Americans celebrate Christmas (let’s assume similar statistics for Canada).

You read those numbers right. In a country so sharply divided along political lines, almost everyone celebrates Christmas. Do you know how hard it is to get that kind of unanimous agreement about anything in America in the year 2007?

What this means is the vast majority of non-believers also celebrates the birth of Christ. Rather than wanting to destroy yule, they have made the holiday part of their own annual traditions.

Christmas has such widespread appeal even the non-Christians want in on it. It’s that irresistible. . . .

For the sake of argument, let’s assume the remaining four per cent of society is rabidly anti-Christmas. They must be doing a helluva job if such a small group has the power to threaten a hallowed tradition that has endured for centuries.

The truth is Christmas is doing just fine. Christmas will be around long after all of us are dust.

And as some very smart people have pointed out, if there really is a war on Christmas — then Christmas is winning.

In fact, Christmas isn’t just winning. It’s kicking ass and taking numbers.

This is why in recent years we have seen the advent of Festivus and Chrismukkah — because even ardent non-Christians want to incorporate Christmas into their own traditions.

Any army foolhardy enough to declare war on Christmas hasn’t been paying attention. Like the war on terror, the war on drugs and the war on poverty, it can’t be won. Christmas is way too powerful to ever be stopped.

Full article can be viewed at http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Today/Columnists/Brown_Dan/2007/12/06/4710730.html

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The famous last words of so many.

"The reason for the season" is not expressed in a Festivus pole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_controversy

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If one thing really gets to me...it is the statement or implication that the 'USA is a Christian nation' (very different from a nation that has a large percentage identifying themselves as 'Christians'. The reason is simple, that such a statement is exclusionary to those who do not so identify. For me this is all on the same spectrum of theocracy vs. non-secular. Those on the theocratic end include such models of freedom as Saudi Arabia and Iran. I think most on this board would agree this is not where we want to be. Christians do not own or control Christmas. It has a life of its own. For some it is deeply religious, and for others it is a wonderful holiday. Pushing the religiosity only deepens the desire to not say Merry Christmas so as not to appear so politically correct to the religious...

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If one thing really gets to me...it is the statement or implication that the 'USA is a Christian nation' (very different from a nation that has a large percentage identifying themselves as 'Christians'.

Founded by Columbus, explored by The North American Martyrs, laws based on the Ten Commandments, the majority of the population Christian, Christmas the only faith based national holiday - I think we're a Christian nation.

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The reason is simple, that such a statement is exclusionary to those who do not so identify.

Too bad. Identify with Festivus or Kwanzaa, or whatever you'd like for the 25th of Dec.

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For me this is all on the same spectrum of theocracy vs. non-secular. Those on the theocratic end include such models of freedom as Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Whaaa?

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I think most on this board would agree this is not where we want to be. Christians do not own or control Christmas. It has a life of its own.

Barry, you are jealous that the secular progressives don't have such a holiday and want a share of ours. Try Festivus.

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For some it is deeply religious, and for others it is a wonderful holiday. Pushing the religiosity only deepens the desire to not say Merry Christmas so as not to appear so politically correct to the religious...

Well then , Merry Whatever to you, Barry.

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Barry, you are jealous that the secular progressives don't have such a holiday and want a share of ours.


Christmas is a perfectly reasonable secular holiday for use by anyone as it fits....ala Christmas in Connecticut....or any number of Christmas movies where Santa was the more prominent figure....as I have mentioned before, no one had more robust Christmas decorations in their stores than those in Islamic Malaysia....Face it Terry, a mid winter holiday with gift giving is good for anyone...if you also want to celebrate its roots, go for it.
The Yule Log and Christmas tree were taken form Pagans, Christmas is what it is for who ever. Just don't think you can take it back


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Barry, This conversation is ridiculous. What is it about the Christ in Christmas you don't get?

If it's not about celebrating the birth of the Saviour of the World, the Word made Flesh then it's not Christmas. Call it "Festivous", call it "Return of the Sun", call it "Give to the Poor Day", "Present Day" whatever you want. You can even call it Christmas, but, if it doesn't fit the definition, it ain't it.

Depends on what the meaning of is, is. What crap.

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