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yes, he belongs in the Hall of Fame:


No, he does not.

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Stat wise He does. Conduct unbecoming or embarrassing to baseball says he does not. I would actually love to hear him come clean in some kind of trial setting to argue his side one last time. I have heard comments attributed to him such as "Every office has a NCAA pool " "Did you ever play softball for a keg or a couple of bucks on the side "  He still believes the only "mortal" sin would have been betting against his team and then making sure ( by managerial moves) they lost.


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Granny I loved the way he played , hustled and basically refused to lose. Ran full speed to first on a walk , ran on and off the field. I used him as an example to kids I coached that playing hard had rewards and that was the only way to play the game. He was a singles hitter ( 3,215 singles ) which gave the kids a hero that proved there was room for other then the home run hitter. Played wherever they needed him and never took an inning off. I for one am sorry he screwed up. Baseball needs more Pete Rose's. The kids need to emulate the type of player he was. " Say it ain't so Pete " 


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Mr Mantel on Mr Rose,
 
''If I'd a hit that many singles, I'd a wore a dress."

But I still think he belongs in the Hall.

 
 



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Rose admits to betting on Reds 'every night'
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Updated: March 16, 2007, 5:30 PM ET
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Pete Rose revealed Wednesday that he bet on the Reds "every night" while he was manager of the team and that the Dowd Report was correct when it said he did so.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2798498

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He knew the rule on betting. When are we going to make people responsible for their actions?


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The Hall of Fame already includes dead beats, wife beaters, druggie, racists, and cheats. And the cheating effected what happened between the lines a lot more than if you had a bet down. Terry, I usually agree that the rules should be enforced. But I don’t think they should be enforced selectively. Rose played hard and well enough to be in the Hall of Fame and the only thing the hall seems to care about is how one played, forget character!

 

By the way, I think we’re hearing way too much from you lately! And all I can say about the 'confusion' ticket is it looks like it’s made up of some real heavy weights


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Terry I realize that betting was against the rules. Rose knew what would happen if he got caught and bet anyway. Gambling is a disease as much as alcohol or drug dependancy. There are alcoholics and druggies in the hall Of fame. Since he was never honest ( as far as I know ) about and remained in denial for so long he deserves his fate and the ruling against him. In the court of public opionion before I read the article you provided I would ask the typical woodside question , He bet on the Reds everynight , to win ??????     I know a bet is a bet wrong either way but I would bet he bet them to win. !!! 


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412 - 373  Rose's record while managing the Reds. I read the article Terry posted. He admits he bet on the Reds every game he managed and then of course stated he went all out to win those games. I know it's not a issue, a bet is a bet and it was illegal, but I am happy he never bet against his own team and threw a game to win a bet. His record would make him + 39 .  So if he bet 5k a game he was up $19,400. Seems a small price to trade for your reputation and a place in the Hall Of Fame.   


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The Baseball Hall of Fame elected five new members
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Manager Dick Williams
Manager Billy Southworth
Commissioner Bowie Kuhn
Pirates Owner Barney Dreyfuss
Dodgers Owner Walter O'Malley
 
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Dodgers Owner Walter O'Malley 

Still angry that he moved the Dodgers to LA?

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Signing Jackie Robinson was his ticket in !


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Talking about suspect guys in Hall of Fame - Juan Marichal clocks John Roseboro with a bat and gives him a concussion. Not only did Marichal make the hall on the first ballot, but he wound up on the Veterans's Commitee. He's lucky he didn't end his career palying for the 'San Quintan Stripes'


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Signing Jackie Robinson was his ticket in !


Wasn't it Branch Rickey that signed him?

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Rickey was the G.M. O'Malley was the owner . I'm sure Rickey didn't make a move that big without consulting with ownership. I might be wrong. i do know O'Malley packed up and fled Brooklyn for L.A. which makes him one of the most hated Ex Brooklynites ever !!!


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I know Marichal was wrong to hit Roseboro with the bat . But never mentioned is the fact that Roseboro hit Marichal on the side of the head and ear with a return throw to the pitcher. marichal thought it was on purpose and lost his temper.


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