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RussellDoucetteof73

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On August 13, 1945, Branch Rickey, John L. Smith
and Walter O'Malley formed a trio of owners for the Brooklyn Dodgers. They owned 75% of the team; the other 25% owned by Dearie Mulvey (daughter of a
previous team owner).....
At the time of Jackie Robinson's
signing in 1946, O'Malley was part owner, general counsel, and a vice-president.


I see that Branch Rickey as part-owner would have been able to sign Robinson. If Smith or Mulvey were siding with Rickey, O'Malley would have no say in the matter and wouldn't have been mentioned in press reports at the time.

Was Dearie Mulvey  the daughter of Charlie Ebbets?

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russell,

See http://mlb.mlb.com/la/history/owners.jsp

Dearie Mulvey was the daughter of Stephen McKeever and her husband, James, was president of Samuel Goldwyn Productions.  Mckeever was a partner of Ebbetts'.

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It's a little confusing following all the twists of Dodger ownership. But I think I have the general idea.


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according to sports talk radio and ESPN the Mets are alive again in the santanna sweep stakes . Hey maybe Omar reads this blog !!!


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Well the winter meetings are over and Santana is still a Twin , I heard the Tigers will have trouble finding enough money to pay Dontrel Willis and that Omar is sniffing around. Yanks should look toward Bily beane and Oakland there may be some pitching available there.


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What do these guys all have in common?

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood

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Anything to do with this?

Big Stars Named in Mitchell Report

By RONALD BLUM,
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Posted: 2007-12-13 15:00:40
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NEW YORK (Dec. 13) - Roger Clemens, Miguel Tejada and Andy Pettitte were named in the long-awaited Mitchell Report on Thursday, an All-Star roster linked to steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs that put a question mark - if not an asterisk - next to some of baseball's biggest moments.

Barry Bonds, already under indictment on charges of lying to a federal grand jury about steroids, and Gary Sheffield also showed up in baseball's most infamous lineup since the Black Sox scandal.

The report culminated a 20-month investigation by former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, hired by commissioner Bud Selig to examine the Steroids Era.

"Everyone involved in baseball over the past two decades - commissioners, club officials, the players' association and players - shares to some extent the responsibility for the steroids era," Mitchell said. "There was a collective failure to recognize the problem as it emerged and to deal with it early on."

Eric Gagne, Jason Giambi, Troy Glaus, Gary Matthews Jr., Jose Guillen, Brian Roberts, Paul Lo Duca and Rick Ankiel were among other current players named in the report. Some were linked to Human Growth Hormone, others to steroids.

Clemens was singled out in nearly nine pages, with much of the information on the seven-time Cy Young Award winner coming from former New York Yankees major league strength and conditioning coach Brian McNamee. More than a dozen Yankees, past and present, were among the 75-plus players identified.

"According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens' performance showed remarkable improvement," the report said. "During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the steroids 'had a pretty good effect' on him."

McNamee also told investigators that "during the middle of the 2000 season, Clemens made it clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season, McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin."

Mitchell urged Selig to hold off on punishing players in the report "except in those cases where he determines that the conduct is so serious that discipline is necessary to maintain the integrity of the game."

Several stars named in the report could pay the price in Cooperstown, much the way Mark McGwire was kept out of the Hall of Fame this year merely because of steroids suspicion.

"Former commissioner Fay Vincent told me that the problem of performance-enhancing substances may be the most serious challenge that baseball has faced since the 1919 Black Sox scandal," Mitchell said in the 409-page report.

"The illegal use of anabolic steroids and similar substances, in Vincent's view, is 'cheating of the worst sort.' He believes that it is imperative for Major League Baseball to 'capture the moral high ground' on the issue and, by words and deeds, make it clear that baseball will not tolerate the use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs."

Kevin Brown, Benito Santiago, Lenny Dykstra, Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice and Mo Vaughn were among former players named.

"We identify some of the players who were caught up in this drive to gain a competitive advantage," the report said. "Other investigations will no doubt turn up more names and fill in more details, but that is unlikely to significantly alter the description of baseball's `steroids era' as set forth in this report."

Mitchell is a director of the Boston Red Sox, and some questioned whether that created a conflict.

"Judge me by my work," Mitchell said. "You will not find any evidence of bias, special treatment, for the Red Sox or anyone else. That had no effect on this investigation or this report, none whatsoever."

Giambi, under threat of discipline from Selig, was the only current player known to have cooperated with the Mitchell investigation.

"The players' union was largely uncooperative for reasons that I thought were largely understandable," Mitchell said.

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John , Many of the names on your list were definitely on my list. What they have in common besides being on the "juice" ? They didn't make the "A" list ?
Some of these guys were on Mitchell's list most were not. All should have been. A fair guess is that Mitchell's list is less then 2% of the players who were using.

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One of the most telling statements I heard Sen. Mitchell say was about guys he interviewed that knew there were guys on the juice that beat them out for major league roster spots. Barry Bonds ( according to a source close to the player) felt he was the best player in baseball. Then Sosa and McGuire started upping the bar and he felt he had to do something to regain his status. Gonzalez of your DBacks , Brett Boone , Brady Anderson , Pudge , Tajeda all these guys got big in a hurry and were suspects. Bonds , McGuire , Palmero , Sosa , Giambi most of us were sure they were juicing. If the average fan had a good idea who was and who wasn't , baseball is actually the culprit here. After the labor strike and the canceled World series they needed a boost to get the fans back. ( Or so they thought ) They turned a blind eye to achieve this goal. Obviously it worked , last year set an all time attendance record and reported revenues of 4.2. billion .

The trouble and the real problem is how to tell a kid that this stuff will not help them get a scholarship or a pro contract when they can read and realize it can.

It's almost like the play Damn Yankees. After we ( I ) gave my yearly post baseball , anti drug and roid speech to my team , I had a kid ask me if I thought it would be worth gambling with health problems at 40 to be a Major leaguer ? Of Course I said there is no guarantee the drugs would get you to the majors , life and family  are just beginning at the end of a career and that cancer and other related diseases were not something to gamble on. He replied that his parents smoke and that seemed like the same gamble with no reward. I'm actually ashamed to admit that the line I use and that seems to work the best with high school boys is the old "Shrinkage" story. What good is it to be the big man on campus , date the best looking girls and strike out in the old "love " department cause the steroids have rendered your equipment dormant ! They all and I mean all ask Really that happens ! I reply in the positive and the majority of the teenage hormonal boys feel that is reason enough to stay off the stuff. ( It probably helps that I add that girl's talk in the locker room just like the boys and that it would be all over School that things aren't as they should be in that department. )

Anyone I really feel is a potential problem we have a strength and conditioning coach who puts them on serious work out programs and monitors them for warning signs. We occasionally have a kid or two who is enticed to try it.    

I have a feeling the list will make it a bigger problem for high schools .

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  Dan Haren 27 years old 5 year veteran can start or close. 192 walks 606 strike outs 781 innings , 3.82 era. Has a tendency to challenge hitters with nobody on and hence has given up a lot of solo homers ( Like Catfish Hunter)
(81 homers last 3 years) 6'5" 220 graduate of pepperdine started 34 games each of the last three seasons. Throws consistently in the upper 90's. 

W-LERAKWalksWHIP
15-9
3.07
192
55
1.21


I would think in the national league that ERA comes down at least half a point. A pitcher that gives you 34 starts , eats up a lot of innings wins 14 to 16 games and pitches to a 2.60 era is a great deal.  

Pretty good year last year !!! The Mets and Yanks were both looking to get this guy. Figure you will hear the Santana talks start again now that Haren is gone.

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Granny by the way read the very first post on page 6 under back to baseball guess Omar and Brian cashman should read this blog once in awhile


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