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I may be making a quick trip next weekend to NYC. Normally I fly in and stay at a local Manhattan hotel. So far that is looking WAY to pricey ($500/nt for a Residence Inn??) so staying near Newark or LaGuardia might be reasonable options but then quick convenient access to the city at all hours is the issue.
I will have wheels but have no idea what parking is like in Manhattan. Is it reasonable to expect street parking for 6 hours at a time? How outrageous are parking garages? Safety? etc.
I need locals guidance....at least I know my way around the city and subways...as well as where to eat

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Barry

PS See how lucky you are to have a cheap roof over your head with Manhattan access!


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Try staying at a hotel in Brooklyn or Queens.
Rates usually are cheaper.
The subways can be a mess at times. But it does get you around.
Ride when you want to.
Hoof it when you have to.

Parking in Manhattan can be very difficult to find or wildly expensive.
Or both!
Think gridlock if you try driving around.
"Facts" gleaned from movies like The-Out-Of-Towners usually are blown out waaaay of proportation.
But they are based in truth.

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Russell,

Thanks for your input. I remember Steve Monroe always finding street parking the Village when we went out on the town but I wasn't sure what local regs were. I thought about the Marriott at La Guardia but it is 3 miles from the subway and I am not sure how safe the subway is at 1 AM. My days of living dangerously are gone..well almost. I was in Prague when the Russian Yeltsen revolution broke out and almost tried driving to Moscow to see it.....doubt I could have gotten through the border though.
Anyway, if I can stay at that hotel and use the car to get to the subway it might work. Remember this will be entirely weekend times. All I have to do is "camp" the car in Manhattan and take subways after.

Barry


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Looks like next weekend is the weekend for returning NYers.  I'll be in town for a wedding and another 69er living in Florida will be in NY.


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There's a bus a LaGuardia that will take you to the Hoyt Ave. Station or onto 125th street in Harlem.

Parking in NYC is a nightmare. Expect to park in a lot which I think is now + $35 for the length of time you are considering. Parking by Hoyt Ave is relatively easy and you should be able to find a space in the vicinity of 33rd st and 24th Ave or 23rd Ave. and walk the two blocks to either Hoyt Ave or Ditmars. I tend to prefer Ditmars since I can pick up a paper and a baklava on the way. Some great restaurant's in that area as well -- in particular Elia's Corner at 24th Ave under the el

As to the subway at 1 a.m., there are still plenty of people traveling at that time (hey it's New York after all), and the N train goes through some of the safer sections of the city.

Have you tried Priceline for a hotel? Give it a shot. You can enter the neigborhood, the star rating and the price you are willing to pay. You will often be pleasantly surprised with the outcome.


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Barry , the parking in the city sucks. There was a time if you ventured below Houston you could find non restricted free parking , now with the trendy sections of soho , noho , tribecca etc there is none. Lots go for 35 to 50 bucks for the chunk of time your looking for. Best bet get a room in queens drive to Long Island City ( Court House Square ) where you can go down to the "E" or "F" or up to the Flushing # 7.  15 minutes into the city. There are actually a few decent places that have opened recently. There is a Best Western "City View" on Greenpoint Avenue about 5 minutes from the above mentioned Court House Square and another newly renovated hotel ( i will get the name) at 67th street and Queens Blvd , a 10 minute straight run to the same place. Gridlock alert days are in effect from now until after Christmas , the regulations stipulate what blocks can and can't be used ( restricting turns and access) and  restricting cars to two or more occupants at certain times in certain areas . I'm not sure of all the rules and I live here. Driving into the city or staying there would be a disaster.   


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Wow, great guidance so far. I am thinking that having the car in Queens, like at Courthouse Sq. and using the subway is looking better. I want to hit my favorite pasta place Rafetto's and get some fresh pasta before I return to food provinces. It should stay nice and cold in the car if I shlep it back.

BTW, parking in "The City" as we call SF is a nightmare as well with neighborhood parking (how is that Constitutional??) limits on hours and days (you have to read like 5 different signs to figure if you are legal.) When a decent spot opens up the guy in front ALWAYS gets it....no body drives in the city, they are just looking for parking!

Thanks all , Tom Tony, Webguy, for the great advice. I am waiting until tomorrow to finalize since I am applying late for this workshop, fingers crossed......


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I tend to prefer Ditmars since I can pick up a paper and a baklava on the way.


That is of course our old school stop. I remember taking the train one day for the hell of it to retrace the path, or a chunk of it, that I made for 4 years and it felt so weird. I half expected to see MCers I knew.

I did check out the locals for parking in that area and also Tom's idea sounds promising as well. Maybe when I have a few mil in the bank I will again consider paying Manhattan prices.....Since I will have wheels anyway, I wll probably not try Priceline in the city since I would have to stash the car somewhere anyway. I may take a shot at it if I return for my Bday again....

I am hoping there will be no snow this trip too!


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I thought about the Marriott at La Guardia but it is 3 miles from the subway and I am not sure how safe the subway is at 1 AM.
Anyway, if I can stay at that hotel and use the car to get to the subway it might work. Remember this will be entirely weekend times. All I have to do is "camp" the car in Manhattan and take subways after.


If you stay at the Marriott at La Guardia consider parking the car in Queens or Brooklyn and catch the subway from there to Manhattan. The subways are usually crowded until about 1 AM. I suggest sitting or standing in a subway car with alot of people. And walk with people after you leave the station going back to the car.

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Maybe when I have a few mil in the bank I will again consider paying Manhattan prices. I will probably not try Priceline in the city since I would have to stash the car somewhere anyway.


You might be able to find a hotel in Queens or Brooklyn for less with Priceline.

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BTW, parking in "The City" as we call SF is a nightmare as well with neighborhood parking (how is that Constitutional??) limits on hours and days (you have to read like 5 different signs to figure if you are legal.) When a decent spot opens up the guy in front ALWAYS gets it....no body drives in the city, they are just looking for parking!


Sounds like you're describing Manhattan!


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Barry.... Consider the Pan American Hotel on Queens Boulevard... They have a shuttle bus to and from La Guardia... There is a train  stop on the IND line at Queens Boiulevard and Broadway- about 2 blocks from the hotel....Busses to and from "the city" run regularly along Queens Boulevard also.... The hotel has a nice restaurant and bar and I believe they have reasonable room prices...Parking in their lot is free....Yes, it will be expensive to park your car in the city garages- 12 hours can cost around $50.00 in some places....I would consider the Pan American strongly... To the best of my knowledge, it still has a very good reputation, clean rooms and located near transportation, etc......KJF'66.

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Keep your wish for snow to your self beach boy !!!  Want snow take your seminar in Minnesota !!!


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Keep your wish for snow to your self beach boy !!!  Want snow take your seminar in Minnesota !!!


Tom,

You don't want to share the road with me when it snows! I haven't driven on snow extensively since college. And why if I want avoid snow would I take my seminar to Mn.

Look, I will leave it snowing when I leave.

Kevin,

That sounds like a great tip on the hotel.

Time for my travel tip to you guys.....I tried booking a cheap car out of Hartford for 4 days....$188 Enterprise....switched to 5 days and they booked it on weekly rate $98.50!!!   Another time when bigger is better!  Remember that when you travel...

Barry


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Barry , Sorry , I mis-read your statement. I thought you wanted snow ! As Emily Latilla would say   Never mind !


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Tom,

No problem....since it was the beginning of Winter I thought you wanted to go skiing or something like that.  I usually  bring California weather to NYC when I come, the BIG exception was on my birthday visit 2 years ago  when I inadvertently brought the record blizzard.....and got "stuck" in  Manhattan. We definitely made the best of it. Theaters were open and roads were not so we got box seats at Dirty Rotten Scoundrels for like $25! Times Square was truly a winter wonderland that Saturday nite...no cars, no people just lights and snow.
We left the next day and left the snow clean up to you guys
Interestingly the prior biggest blizzard was the year I was born......

Barry


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Everytime I go to NY, it costs me nothing in lodging. I stay at Chateau de Berger in Flushing . There is also a branch in Far Rockaway but that is too far from the city .


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