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In the spirit of bi-partisanship. I have created a McCain thread.This story appears in Rupert Murdoch's "Wall Street Journal"

Is John McCain Stupid?
July 31, 2008

John McCain losing it?

On Sunday, he said on national television that to solve Social Security "everything's on the table," which of course means raising payroll taxes. On July 7 in Denver he said: "Senator Obama will raise your taxes. I won't."

This isn't a flip-flop. It's a sex-change operation.

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Signing of the GI Bill: Now enthusiastically for it... after it passed. Previously attacked the Webb Bill. Didn't even bother to vote on it.
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/43326-mccain-flip-flops-on-the-gi-bill

Campaign reform: On political reform, McCain last January opposed a grassroots lobbying bill he once supported.  In 2006, the "New York Sun" reported that his presidential ambitions led McCain to reverse his support of a campaign financial bill called McCain/Feingold.
http://www.nysun.com/national/campaign-finance-effort-resumes-without-mccain/36949/

Alien Minors Act/Immigration: Last October he said he would vote against the development, relief and education for Alien Miners Act that he co-sponsored, and then said he would vote against an immigration bill that he introduced.

Gay Marriage: In 2006, he said on "HARDBALL," quote, I think that gay marriage should be allowed.  Then after the commercial break he added, I do not believe that gay marriages should be legal.  

Abortion: On abortion, 1999, publicly supporting Roe v. Wade, privately opposing it in a letter to the National Right to Life Committee.  In the 2000 debates, he would change the GOP platform to permit exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother.  May 2007, "flipped", ABCNews.com reported.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4824779

Nuclear Waste: No Storing Nuclear waste at Yucca mountain earlier..now flipped
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/28/mccains-about-face-yucca/

Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il: Negotiating with Kim Jong-Il not acceptable until President Bush did it last week.
http://bondibox.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/16/1493220-mccain-talking-to-terrorists-is-ok-if-youre-a-republican

Negotiating with Cuba/Castro: With Fidel Castro acceptable in 2000, not 2008.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=34637546

Negotiating with Hamas/Terrorists
: ...with terrorists appropriate when Colin Powell went to Syria and in 2006 when McCain said sooner or later we‘ll talk to Hamas, but not appropriate now re: Obama's willingness to use diplomacy.  http://bondibox.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/16/1493220-mccain-talking-to-terrorists-is-ok-if-youre-a-republican

Pakistan
: Unilateral action against suspected terrorists in Pakistan; "Confused leadership" when Obama suggested it, not when Bush did it.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/20/mccain-blasts-obama-for-bushs-attacks-in-pakistan/

Warrantless Wire-taps: Six months ago, presidents had to obey the law, not anymore.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/us/politics/06mccain.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Torture: Torture detainees, no way, except for the CIA.  Hold them indefinitely, wrong in 2003, the right move in 2008.


Iraq War
: The Iraq war, the right course 2004, stay the course 2005. Today, McCain has always been a Rumsfeld critic.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/04/mccain-iraq-easy/

Tax Cuts
: In 2001, he could not in good conscious support them.  Now he can.


Estate Tax
: 2006, "I agree with President Roosevelt who created it".  In 2008, "most unfair".
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/12/mccain-realizes-he-doesnt-like-the-estate-tax-after-all/

Privatizing Social Security
: This month not for privatizing Social Security, never has been.  In 2004, he "didn‘t see how benefits will last without it".


Balanced Budget
: In February, promised a balanced budget in four years by April, make that eight years.
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001101.htm

Windfall Profits Tax
: In May, glad to look at the windfall profits tax.  By June, that was Jimmy Carter's big idea.
http://flipfloptracker.blogspot.com/2008/06/flip-flop-express-windfall-profits-tax.html

Offshore Drilling
: In 2000, no new off shore drilling.  Last month, it would take years to develop.  This month, very helpful in the short term. 
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/17/mccain-flip-flops-on-offshore-drilling-moratorium/

Coyotes..Bush Big Time Fund Raisers
: The Bush fund-raisers McCain called coyotes breaking the law in 2000.  By 2006, they were co-chairing McCain fund-raisers.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1880630&page=1

"Agents of Intolerance": Buddy Jerry Falwell...an "agent of intolerance in 2000". Kissed Falwell's ass in 2007... The Reverend Hagee and Parsley in, then out this year alone.

Martin Luther King Holiday: In 1983, opposed Martin Luther King Day.  Today, all for it.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/mccain_admits_e.html

Confederate Flag: In 2000, defended South Carolina's confederate flag as a symbol of heritage.  Two years later, McCain calling it, quote, an act of political cowardice not to say the flag should come down.  Quote, "everybody said, look out.  You can't win in South Carolina if you say that."

Evolution in Public Schools: In 2005, McCain said alternatives to evolution should be taught in school.  "Evolving" the opposite position he had taken in 2000.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/12/mccain-creationism/

Swiftboating
: McCain's sudden embrace of Swiftboating --- which today is synonymous with a concerted effort to lie about an opponent's history --- is all the more deplorable because he has hired retired Col. George "Bud" Day, a proud member of the group that Swiftboated Kerry --- and someone McCain once described as having "tunnel vision" --- to lead what McCain is calling his "Truth Squad."
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_flip_flops_on_Swift_Boaters

GITMO/Habeus Corpusespite John McCain's outrage last week that the Supreme Court ordered Gitmo detainees know why they were being held, or released -- Political Base has stumbled upon a McCain appearance on Meet the Press in 2005 where he argued they deserved trials, going so far as to say "if it means releasing some of them, you'll have to release them." Shameless.
http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/Mark%20Nickolas/blog/&blogId=2598

Divestment from South Africa: During his June 2 speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), John McCain called for the international community to target Iran for the kind of worldwide sanctions regime applied to apartheid-era South Africa. Unfortunately, McCain’s lobbyist-advisers Charlie Black and Rick Davis each represented firms doing business with Tehran. Even more unfortunate, John McCain was frequently not among those offering "moral clarity and conviction" in backing "a divestment campaign against South Africa, helping to rid that nation of the evil of apartheid."
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/mccain-divestment/

Opposing Hurricane Katrina Investigations: During a June 4th town hall meeting in Baton Rouge, John McCain answered a reporter’s question regarding Hurricane Katrina and the failure of the New Orleans levees by announcing:

"I’ve supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy. I’ve been here to New Orleans. I’ve met with people on the ground."

As it turns out, not so much. McCain’s revisionist history neglects to mention that in 2005 and 2006 he twice voted against a commission to study the government’s response to Katrina. He also opposed three separate emergency funding measures providing relief to Katrina victims, including the extension of five months of Medicaid benefits. And as ThinkProgress pointed out, "until traveling there one month ago, McCain had made just one public tour of New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina touched down in August 2005."
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/04/mccain-katrina/

McCain On His Economic Abilities: "I have not. I have not. Actually, I have not." "I said that I am stronger on national security issues because of all the time I spent in the military and others. I am very strong on the economy. I understand it. I have a lot more experience than my opponent."

-- Sen. John McCain, in an interview on ABC News, when asked why he "admitted that you're not exactly an expert when it comes to the economy."

However, NBC News compiles past McCain quotes in which he said "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should" or "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/02/1179920.aspx

On Criticizing Obama While "Overseas": Traveling in Colombia, he told reporters that he wouldn't criticize Obama while he was overseas, but on the plane, he blasted Obama’s opposition to the proposed Colombia free trade...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/mccain-in-colom.html

Temperment and Temper: "My temper has often been both a matter of public speculation and personal concern," he wrote in a 2002 memoir. "I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public's."  Not true and not under control, according to many of those on the "W"rong side of McCain's famous temper.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008041902224.html

Drilling For Oil and Automobile Efficiency: "Last week, Senator McCain reversed himself and said we need to drill more. Today, he has reversed years of failing to support more efficient cars, new energy technologies and green jobs.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1400

Offshore Drilling: Two weeks ago, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered "a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies" by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain’s move a break with environmental activist, but it is also "a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/17/mccain-flip-flops-on-offshore-drilling-moratorium/

Ethics Reform and Abramoff: On the stump, Sen. John McCain often cites his work tackling the excesses of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff as evidence of his sturdy ethical compass. A little-known document, however, shows that McCain may have taken steps to protect his Republican colleagues from the scope of his investigation.
a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/mccain-withheld-controver_n_88304.html
a href="http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_humps_for_Doolittle_Pombo_and_the_Abramoff_gang




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Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain called Monday for immediate congressional action on the nation’s energy crisis, joining a call by his Republican colleagues for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to call legislators back from their August recess for a special session.

The Arizona senator said he would return to vote on any proposal. McCain has missed Senate votes since April, including several involving major energy measures – one of which, a summer gas tax holiday, was a standard element of his spring stump speech.


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Tony71,

Maybe it's just me, but NONE of those links worked. Where they provided by the BO campaign?

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Tony71,

Maybe it's just me, but NONE of those links worked. Where they provided by the BO campaign?


Hi John,
Thanks for the heads up. I've fixed the links that I could and deleted those that I could not.

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MLK holiday, Confederate flag, name calling, quotes spun out of context....... most of those 'accusations' seem pretty trivial to me
 
But one I just couldn't let this one pass.
 
 
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Swiftboating: McCain's sudden embrace of Swiftboating --- which today is synonymous with a concerted effort to lie about an opponent's history --- is all the more deplorable because he has hired retired Col. George "Bud" Day, a proud member of the group that Swiftboated Kerry --- and someone McCain once described as having "tunnel vision" --- to lead what McCain is calling his "Truth Squad."


 
Synonymous with what?
 

As I understand it, the Swiftboat veterans group had been holding reunions for at least ten years when in 2003 a number of them sent a letter to Kerry, who was running for president, asking him to release his military records.  They felt he had misrepresented his service and theirs. Interestingly 03’ was the only reunion Kerry showed up at. And my guess is that was damage control once he found out his former service members were didn’t have as high an opinion of his supposed ‘heroics’ as he did.

 

Of course, Republicans then supported the SBVFT (formed in 03) many other veterans I know, non-political and even Democrats did also.

 

The term “Swiftboating” is a leftwing creation trying to imply that the Swift Boat Veterans activities were only politically driven smears, that was certainly NOT the case. Some are trying to make ‘swiftboating’ synonymous with “Borking”, a true political lynching of an honorable man.

 

T. Boone Pickens is still offering a $1,000,000 ‘reward’ for anyone who can disprove the claims made by the SBVFT. And jfk still hasn’t released his military records.

 

(My theory about jfk's military records is they contain a less then honorable discharge, or maybe an dishonorable one.)

 

DEPLORABLE?  Hiring COL. Day, a Medal of Honor recipient who like McCain, spent five and a half years as a POW while jfk was deplorably lying about the men serving in Vietnam and treasonously meeting with the enemy? Yeah! 

 

 

 





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The following is the last couple of paragraphs of a Hillary Clinton piece that appeared in today's (August 6) Wall Street Journal.  She thoroughly bashed Bush, which is to be expected, and is no problem for me.  What I found interesting though was no mention of her party's presumptive nominee, particularly when she refers to the Truman spirit being needed in the White House.   Taken with Bill's evasive remarks regarding Obama's Presidential qualifications this leads me to conclude that Hillary hasn't given up yet. 

 

 

"In 1941, as the U.S. mobilized and entered World War II, then Sen. Harry Truman proposed and chaired the Senate Special Committee to investigate the National Defense Program. Over the course of three years, Truman set about investigating a president of his own party in order to discover and eliminate wasteful and fraudulent spending. By some estimates, the "Truman Committee" saved the American people some $15 billion -- more than $165 billion in today's dollars.

Truman took on the war profiteers because he understood that when the lives of Americans hang in the balance, we cannot afford to misuse even a single dollar. In the Democratic Congress, we've proposed a new Truman Committee to address the waste, fraud and abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan that has already taken place, a proposal stymied by the president and his allies. And my proposal would prevent waste, fraud and abuse in future contracting.

Of course, we need far more than a Truman Committee. We need the Truman spirit in the White House, where the buck finally stops."


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McCain Backs Proper Tire Inflation

By Justin Gardner | Related entries in 2008 Election, Barack, Energy, Gas, McCain                                                                

“Obama said a couple of days ago says we all should inflate our tires. I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it. My friends, let’s do that, but do you think that’s enough to break our dependence on foreign oil? I don’t think so.”

Yeah, because that was Obama’s entire energy plan…proper tire inflation.

As Ben Smith points out…

The tire gauge argument, however, seemed to depend on mocking Obama’s suggestion and insisting that it was all he had to say on gas prices; calling it reasonable but saying it’s not enough puts you in more or less the same place as Obama.

Actually, where it puts McCain is disconnected from some easy, real world solutions that could help fuel efficiency immediately. Not only that, by mocking the idea and trying to make Obama look like a fool for suggesting it he has soured probably half the electorate on the idea.

In other words, he put his political interests before solutions that could literally save us billions of gallons of fuel a year.


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McCain's forgotten in-laws


Cindy McCain's half-sister: 'Painful' to be ignored

                       

WASHINGTON - When Cindy McCain talks about growing up, she usually refers to herself as an "only child" - a phrase that ignores the existence of her half-sisters.

"It's terribly painful," Kathleen Hensely Portalski said Tuesday. "It is as if she is the real daughter. I am also a real daughter."

Portalski and McCain are both children of the late Jim Hensley, the Arizona businessman who founded one of the largest beer distributorships in the nation. Kathleen, 65, is the product of Hensley's first marriage in the 1930s to Mary Jeanne Parks. Hensley divorced Parks for Marguerite "Smitty" Johnson, whom he met at a West Virginia hospital in World War II and married in 1945. Cindy was born nine years later.

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THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


I know that some of you don't like to read long drawn out missives...
so here's the executive summary.........


                                    Congress                                    Military
John McCain                     
26 Years                                 22 Years

 
Barrack Obama          143 days                               0   



Just think how great a professional of any kind you could be with only 143 days of experience!!!

People want change so badly? . . . . maybe we should lower the experience requirement for doctors, lawyers, airline pilots, etc. This would cause some change!
 
Obama's 143 Days of Senate Experience
 
Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much.
 
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory Committee, he logged 143 days
of experience in the Senate.
 
That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
 
The one single Senate committee that he headed never even met -- once.
 
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.
 
Think about it.......143 days -- 20.4 weeks -- 4.7 months ..
 
 
Our children spend more time in pre-school getting ready for kindergarten.

 

On the other hand maybe change is good.  Personally, I'd like to see improvement rather than change.  If o'bama is for change, why did he pick biden, a LONG time dc insider as an agent for change?


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THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


The former president with the most experience, James Buchanan, who had 29 years of service as a representative, senator, ambassador and Secretary of State, is arguably the worst president in the US history (Until GWB's term is up and then he will take the honor). While Abraham Lincoln with only 2 years experience in the federal government is considered a national icon and, with George Washington, one of the most venerated leaders in our nation’s history.

The last senator to make the jump to the White House had only one term under his belt before winning the Democratic primary. In the general election, he was called unelectable because of one of his inherent characteristics; the country wasn’t ready for such a man to be president, his detractors said. Yet in spite of his Catholicism, John F. Kennedy went on to become one of the most beloved presidents in recent history.

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John F. Kennedy went on to become one of the most beloved presidents in recent history.

Young , charismatic a war hero and a preacher of the attainability of the American dream. Enshrined in history more for his tragic death then his accomplishments in life.  

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