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An' I ain't turnin' down the heat.
The picture posted is doing what it's supposed to do. Make you think about what abortion is really all about. Humanize it.

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No need to add pictures to make your point.


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I have just one word for this picture:

GROSS!

 

Do we really need to see this in here?

P.S. I'm glad the pic wasn't reprinted.


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Donna, if you thought that the picture that Terrance posted was horrific then you might not want to look at this one  !!!

 

But Terrance - you need to see what the effect of no birth control results in!!!!



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But Terrance - you need to see what the effect of no birth control results in!!!!

 

You think abortion birth control?


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Good photo, very funny.

Vi wrote: But Terrance - you need to see what the effect of no birth control results in!!!!

I'm not here (in this thread) to write a book on human sexuality - at least not yet. It's the post conception birth control I'm upset about.
As for pre-conception birth control, parents need to teach their children to consider all the ramifications of the sexual act and not just supply them with condoms or the pill. Parents need to teach their children the meaning of Chasity, self control and abstinence and not reduce the act to a four letter word, but to bring it back to the true meaning of love it was always meant to be.

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We offer, without comment the following:

Thirteen percent of the 490 girls at Timken High School in Canton, Ohio, are pregnant, contrasting with the national average of 8%, which has been falling over the past decade, the... AP/Yahoo! News reports. Teen pregnancy "is a widespread issue" in many urban areas, according to Jay Green, chair of the University of Arkansas' education reform department. Green and Greg Forster, both senior fellows at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, released a report in January 2004 that found 20% of urban 12th graders and 14% of suburban 12th graders have been pregnant. Since 2001, the Ohio Department of Health and the Bush administration have awarded $32 million in grants to state agencies for abstinence education. Timken High School offers an abstinence-based sex education program, but Joanne Hinton, whose 16-year-old daughter is pregnant, said that the program is insufficient. "It's time to take the blinders off and realize that these kids are having sex," she said (Mabin, AP/Yahoo! News, 9/1). Pregnant teens at Timken can enroll in a Pregnancy Life Skills class, which began this year after the school nurse received many requests for individual counseling

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Johnny - No I don't. Just trying to add humor to a disgusting, misguided post. Do you think pictures like the one Tuffy posted is appropriate?

 

BTW - mea culpa for mis-spelling your name Terrence.


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John, I see your post as an attempt to 'hi-jack" the thread. To get off the subject of abortion and move it in the direction of birth control. If your pro abortion, let's hear it. If you want to talk birth control, why don't you start a new thread?

Vi, as for the picture, we're talking abortion. I feel that many people do not realize how far developed the baby is only after a few weeks. As Jesse Jackson stated: "They further never talk about aborting a baby because that would imply something human. Rather they talk about aborting the fetus. Fetus sounds less than human and therefore abortion can be justified". That's why I posted the picture.


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Donna, if you thought that the picture that Terrance posted was horrific then you might not want to look at this one  !!!

 

But Terrance - you need to see what the effect of no birth control results in!!!!

 

viola,

 

Sorry I missed you point. I had thought the picture was for Bella the fella and the comment to TT was separate.

 

Now I get it.  Chuckle, chuckle

 

 


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As in your model, only the innocent will be adjudicated to suffer. They will remain silent to receive their crucification as Christ did before Pilate.If they where to speak what would they say: "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?"
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The Colorado Kid says Terrence is the only person who can reduce the abortion issue to black and white. Not so. Counting me, there are at least two of us.

 

Abortion is murder.

 

Absolution and forgiveness are available.

 

And, before anyone asks, I do not oppose the death penalty.

 

If you cannot see the difference between the killing of an unborn, innocent child, and the act of ridding society of its worst, and usually unrepentant, miscreants (the BTK killer comes to mind), we have no basis for dialog.

 

I am a man, and do not know what it feels like to be pregnant when you want not to be. Stipulated. I have compassion for any woman in that situation.

 

I have compassion for any pregnant woman. What an ordeal, even in the best of circumstances. My wife went through it twice. She deserves to be honored for that, and she had "easy" pregnancies.

 

It is a black mark upon our world that so many people justify terminating life for their own convenience. There are always alternatives to abortion. Catholic Charities, and other organizations, will provide support to any pregnant woman.

 

Adoption comes to mind. There is sorrow in the heart of a parent who gives up a child for adoption. But to kill the child to avoid that sorrow? How selfish. How selfish.

 

Men share the blame for the sorry situation in our society today. Perhaps men should shoulder most of the blame. If the man who participates in beginning the pregnancy would stay with and support the woman, there would be fewer abortions.

 

The right number of abortions is zero.

 

What happens to a species that does not care for its young above all other concerns? Extinction, I guess. And well-deserved.

 

Richard F. Colarco, '66

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Can't stay out of this any longer. Being from a pro choice standpoint, I must then be pro murder. But, who's murder? If it comes down to aborting the fetus or watching the woman die due to complications, who does one pick? Allowing the woman to die, when an abortion could save her life, is also a murder. Just as willful and intentional. Thus, shouldn't the woman have the opportunity to choose to save her own life?
All God's creatures, great and small. Man is the only of these to not go by survival of the fittest. The runt of the litter is usually left to fend for itself, and just as usually dies, in order to ensure the survival of the remaining healthy offspring. This is called nature. Why cause a child to survive when it will be born severly deformed and/or handicapped? Is this fair to the child, to make it endure this pain and probably die an extremely early death because of the condition? Or, is it being selfish? Man playing God and determining whether or not to allow nature to decide. Back to what is "humane", only applying to non human life. Among God's creations, is nature itself. His method of allowing things to take their course. Sometimes, this course causes pain and suffering. Thus, it's natural for imperfect members of all species to be developed. In these cases, forcing the life to survive is akin to allowing it to be terminated, man playing God's role. Both go against the natural course of life. But, which is the proper course for the life involved? Yes, I've seen the list in which this thought pattern would have seen Beehtoven (I think it was) die and Hitler survive. Bad news, Hitler survived anyway and if there was ever a poster child for abortion, he's it!
These reasons make me believe that abortion does actually have it's place in human society. It's not necessarily immoral or wrong to let the natural order of things proceed. I completely disagree with abortion as a means of getting out of a pregnancy, just for the sake of not having to face the responsibility. That, is a murder, displaying a grave indifference for human life. Yet, I also believe there comes a time for it to be an alternative. Man's law allows one to take a life in order to save a life. Just as killing someone trying to shoot or stab someone to death, so to is aborting someone to prevent them from killing someone from within, et al, the mother. However, this is not the justification for the "Right to Lifers" going around killing Doctors and other innocent people going to clinics. They may be saving a life by taking one.

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Bob,

 

It would be wonderfully if abortions were limited to only cases when the mother's life was at risk. Even if abortion was limited to those cases and insistences of rape or incest that would probably cut the number of abortions from millions to thousands or hundreds.

 

 

 

 


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