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JimDavis

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What most people don't remember is that January 1st, 1966 was not only the

first day of the Transit strike, but also the first day of the Lindsey Administration.  The outgoing Wagner Administration (The MTA state agency

was not in charge of subways and buses then) would not allow the incoming

Republicans to sit in on the negotiations, so Lindsey was hit with a strike

that he could not help to prevent.  Just love those politicians

 

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I remember Mike Quill saying "the judge can drop dead in his black robes"... A few days later Mike Quill dropped dead.... As much as I am against a transit strike, I can only imagine how stressful the negtiations must  be for the uniion leaders and for the city leaders, especially when neither side is willing to make compromises. ....KJF.

At least the mayor was responsible then.  Today it is a state agency.  The Mayor has some say, but his actions and comments really don't help in the process.

 

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You know, maybe if the bulk of the TWU workers actually did their jobs, maybe I'd be more sympathetic.  Fridays after their payday was the worst, they call in sick.  Ask them for directions and they give you this look "Oh my God, I actually have to DO something". 

 

I'm union.  My grandfather was one of the first members of the AFL.  He lost his life trying to unionize workers.  I'm pro-union, but this strike is nothing but an ego trip for this Toussaint.  He's hurting his workers.  They'll lose more than they'll gain.  They should never have gone out on strike. 

 

Russell, I hope you are doing well.  Good luck to you and hopefully this will end soon.  I also hope the members of the TWU vote this knucklehead Toussaint out.  He's doing you more harm than good.  You're probably one person if I asked directions to, you'd answer with a smile.  You are not included in the general description of TWU workers in the first paragraph.

 

 

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Mayor Lindslay, as Quill called him. Intentionally mispronouncing his name. Gave the cops the
"twenty-four squad chart". I was off so often, I thought I was a fireman.

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Russell, I hope you are doing well.  Good luck to you and hopefully this will end soon.  I also hope the members of the TWU vote this knucklehead Toussaint out.  He's doing you more harm than good.  You're probably one person if I asked directions to, you'd answer with a smile.  You are not included in the general description of TWU workers in the first paragraph. 

 

I'm just thinking of this time off from work as a "Reverse Paid" Vacation.

Meaning I'm paying for the time off from work.

If the strike is settled today or tomorrow,

I'll go back to work and take my lumps like a man.

 

 

 


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Russell...No offense to you but I think Jane is right on. Toussaint has made this partially about him. The issues are more complex however that just the TWU. The other city unions are supporting the TWU because if you guys give back on the pension issue they will be forced to as well. Now, my dad was union and so was I for a while but I think holding on to the pension program, as is, is unrealistic. As I understand it the MTA and the city only want it changed for new employees. That seems totally reasonable. 

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I'm sure that some of the mentality around this strike is to show anyone under the age of 25 just how this union can cripple the whole city... For some high school and college students, this is a new experience... For those of us with a few grey hairs, its "been there, done that"....I think that to insist on retirement at age 50 is a bit ridiculous... If everyone retired at age 50, we'd have a lot of people who probably would not be very motivated or very active...I'm not knocking early retirement, I'm simply stating my opinion and how I personally feel about it...People live longer and healthier these days, so why not work a little longer and keep yourself active?... I plan to keep on working way past age 65...Having a job to go to every day keeps the brain cells alive and gives a person  a reason to get out of bed.... I  also think it is also unreasonable to argue with  the request that a small percentage of income be contributed  towards health benefits...If these workers make $60,000 and they have to pay $600 for medical coverage- big deal!... I pay close to $4000.00 a year for coverage for my family...I'm happy to pay that- because if I didn't have any coverage through work, I'd have to pay much, much more...I think that this  strike is well planned by individuals who realized that the best time to cripple a city is a few days before Christmas..... It shows little care for those who ride the trains every day.

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As I understand it the MTA and the city only want it changed for new employees. That seems totally reasonable. 

6% for new hires sounds like a sell out.

Especially since I'm paying 2% as a veteran Agent.


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Having been on both sides of the fence (driving a bus for 15yrs. and in management for 15yrs.) nobody wins in this situation (on strike in 1980 11 days).  Taylor Law penalties will eat up the first year's raise.  Toussant is making this a racial event. "Respect Us".  He wants a reduction in disciplanary actions...evey time you write someone up it becomes a racial thing.  You cannot run a company without people abidding by some laws..like coming in on time, no sick abuse and run your bus or train on time. 

Wage increase was fine..the pension years of service and age remians the same..given a addtional holiday MLK...the stickler was the 6% pension contributions for new hires and 1% health contributions..Kevin had it right what's 1% of your salary spread over 26 checks for health..not much if you have to pay the full policy.  Go back to work and negotiate the pension clause.  That is All!!!

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One does not represent all, but I had an incident on the Steinway bus a year ago this coming January.  S***y weather, the bus drive made a very, very abrupt stop to avoid hitting a car that was making a u-turn in front of him, and I went flying from my seat.  Blew my already bad knee and landed on an extremely cushioned butt that ended up bruised just the same.  A few bruises on my elbows and certainly a bruised ego.  The bus driver continued on his route, never once stopping or asking how I was.  When I was getting of the bus.......limping very badly, I asked if he saw what happened.....didn't even look at me.  Repeated myself and still would not even acknowledge I was speaking to him.  I asked his name and badge number (which they're supposed to wear on their sleeve) and I remained ignored.  Got home and called the bus company to complain and was told they would "speak" with him and that I would have to file through my own auto insurance, as they have no-fault insurance.  Spoke with a lawyer and there was nothing I could do.  And the icing on the cake was they were going to raise my auto insurance.  I wasn't in my car, my car wasn't involved......and they wanted to raise my insurance!!!!!  My very long point being.......where was the respect for me?  Wheeeeeeeeeew!!!  That was a long story. 

 

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Janet;

 

Was it a NYCT bus (Self Insured) or a Triboro line ect.?  when I was driving (NYCT) anytime there was an accident like yours I would asked if the person needed any assistance..ask for the person's name.. if not I would stay in service. At the end of my tour make a misc. report regarding incident. People hurt (???) on NYCT buses or trains would make a report to Jay St.  Their report would go to Legal and the legal eagles would make a determination after probably 3 yrs regarding payment.  Case in point..while driving up in Riverdale woman claimed I dragged her for a 100ft because I closed the bus door on her arm.  Actually, it was raining and I did close the door but before it closed completely she ran up and stuck her umberella in the door...I let her in.  TA had video of her running, shopping and biking..but much to my dismay gave her $10,000 to get the case off the books!!!!  Where's the Justice!!!

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Up this way, it's now three years without a contract. Currently in the middle of a binding arbitration process. A strike is out of the question for us. There are a number of reasons why, but the main one is it wouldn't help anything along and it'd end up hurting us in the long run. The guys who were out in '79 are the main voice against doing it again and they're the ones who'd know best.
Way I heard it, the parent International for the city's TWU strongly advised AGAINST a strike and is not backing this egocentric clown. He'll bankrupt the union and cause hardship to all his membership. The best way to gain respect, is to first show respect. Apparently, he was out during that class in union ethics. I wish the rank and file good luck and hope you all get past this soon.

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Nick, it was the Steinway bus, not MTA at the time, though now they are.  I asked a driver on my regular bus, Triboro, what he would've done in that situation and he said....."follow procedure.....stop and check if the passenger is OK, call an ambulance/police if necessary....report it when his shift was over."  He said a driver's first concern is his passengers' safety.  Well, to say the least, I was extremely angry with the Steinway driver and it took quite some time to get over it.......lost two days of work and had just joined the gym, which I had to give up for 3 months.  Crazy world when it's run by the inmates!!!!  

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